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Rallin
08-04-2009, 05:50 PM
About TFB:

We've been around a long time; this guild in its current incarnation was formed on March 6th, 2005. Over this time, for people "who couldn't kill the first two molten giants in MC," we've done pretty well for ourselves. We've gone through a lot of people, but one thing has remained constant: no matter how much we've raided, 4 days, or 2 as we do currently, we've prided ourselves on getting the job done. We're also one of the most laid back and close-knit groups of friends in the history of friends. Ever. If you're looking for a community, not just a guild, where we have fun and get stuff done when we buckle down and put our minds to it, this is the place for you.

What we ask of you:

Throw up an app, and get into contact with one of our friendly officers. We have too many to list, so just hit up a guild member and they will (usually) point you in the right direction, unless you're annoying as hell then prepare to talk to Purelybetter. Please put an effort into the app - even though some of the questions may seem odd to you, a properly filled out app looks much better in your favor than someone who can't spell correctly.

Show us you care about your character. Unless you are a Deity among us lowly WoW players and have an amazing line of reasoning for it, please do not app in leveling gear and full 333 blues. We understand there are exceptional players, but there is a minimum gear requirement for playing competitively with us at all. Any one of our members can look at your armory for less than a minute and tell if you care about your character or not. Please take the time to look at your gems, enchants, and reputations before you decide to apply.

Show up, and get ready to perform. We don't have fun at the expense of raiding and getting stuff done, we have fun while getting it done. If you're not willing to do this, don't bother.

Think independently. I play three classes well - this doesn't mean I can theorycraft every single class for you, nor is it my job. That is up to you to keep up with. I can offer advice on those three classes, or just general tips, but in the end, this is your class and not mine. A good starting spot would be elitistjerks.com. The tools are out there, and it is up to you, not me, to use them.

Do your job. Before you even think about hopping into the back seat and leading our raids, know your own role first, before you look really dumb by dying in the most hilarious way possible.

If we are recruiting you multiple roles, please know and gear them appropriately. Not every fight will need 3 tanks, some will need 1 or 2 (Vezax, Yogg). Not every fight will need 6 healers, some will need 3 or 4 (Hodir hard). Make sure that your offspec gear and theorycraft is up to date. I expect the same from our core raiders, and I expect greater from apps.

Don't try too hard to fit in. We have a culture during our raids, and someone that thinks they're a comedian that comes in and starts saying lame jokes is an obvious sign that you're trying too hard. We also recruit on how much you fit into our guild, and we will look more highly upon you if you just be yourself, rather than the next Greengoo or myself.

Perform. What matters during your app process, mainly, is how you perform. Ass-kissing will get you nowhere, nor will proclaiming you are the GREATEST (insert class) EVER. You're probably not. If you are, show us.


The App Process

Once you show up to a raid or two, you will be invited into the guild, and given the rank of Bodyguard. Hitman is our core raider rank, while Thug is our Friends and Family rank. You can have alts invited, and Friends and Family. A note about our F&F policy: you can have as many people as you want, but don't go too overboard. Also, anything against them will be your own fault; you are their sponsors and you will be held responsible if they ninja loot anything in a pug raid. If anyone is going to ninja loot a rare mount, it will be me, not you. So don't do it.

As an app, you will have last loot priority when it comes to our system. However, we are mostly reasonable people, and it can be open to discussion. That said, loot whores are not permitted here.

Your time as an app can vary wildly, from 1 week, to about a month - we will promote you or end your trial period when the officers deem the time is right. But realize that once you "pass" the app process, you aren't all of a sudden invincible. Should your attitude/performance during raids drastically change in a negative way, you will be replaced.

World of Logs - http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/10204/

New 6/28:
I don't know why this isn't common sense, but I'm going to state our policy on multiple apps during your trial period:

No.

Dief
03-01-2010, 03:33 PM
Five Tips to a "Successful" Application

Despite what you may think, guild applications aren't quite as rough as job applications. They're mainly there to weed out the total idiots and incompetents. On the other hand, it's pretty easy to appear like a total idiot or incompetent, so here are some tips for your applications. Happy hunting!

1. Don't spell like a moron.
Yes, yes, it's the Internet and spelling and grammar aren't cool among the kids these days. Nevertheless, you're trying to impress these people, so at least make some effort to not type like a monkey undergoing shock treatment. Typing in all lower-case with no punctuation except for "lol" makes the guild officers think that you're going to be a nightmare to have in guild chat, and they're probably right.

2. Use the actual guild's application.
Not a generic application. Not another guild's application. ESPECIALLY not the application of the archnemesis of the guild you're applying to. This is usually an automatic disqualification -- if you can't take the time to fill out the application, how are you going to abide by the guild rules?

3. Don't flirt or post pictures.
No one cares that you're a girl. Really. No, really. They care about how well you can play. If they ask for your gender, it's okay to tell the truth, but including revealing pics or a link to your myspace in your application screams "In the future, I will carry on an ongoing flirtation with several guildmates that will eventually destroy the entire organization." I would assume it's also verboten for a guy to flirt and post half-naked pictures in his guild application, but honestly I would probably /ginvite that person just to watch the chaos that ensues.

4. Don't complain about your last guild.
Even if the split was really bad, just say "there were some issues about _____ and I decided to move on." An epic description of the drama in your last guild makes you look bad, and some of the officers in your wanna-be-new guild probably have friends in your old one.

5. Don't talk about what they can give you -- talk about what you can give them.
I have seen many guild applications where the reason for joining boils down to "I want to get gear and you guys are progressed!" Sure, that's probably the real reason for it, but it's considered tactless (kind of like saying "I really need some money" during a job interview.) Instead, talk about your desire to see new content, meet new people, and help your guild in new encounters. Don't mention gear at all, really.